Warren Phillips, M.S., the Non-Toxic Dad, he is leading a social movement educating and inspiring individuals to choose a non-toxic lifestyle. Warren is a passionate and energetic entrepreneur, he lives a non-toxic lifestyle and works tirelessly to educate the world about avoiding and removing toxins. Non-Toxic Dad has reached and impacted over 100 million people in the last year. During the first 9+ years of his career, Warren worked as a published scientist and Environmental Consultant, cleaning and evaluating chemical and heavy metal impacts on human health and the environment. This work exposed him to these toxins, and he eventually fell ill with an "unexplainable illness." The symptoms, including chronic pain, weight gain, and anxiety, were so severe that he struggled to find a reason to live. But he refused to give up on himself. Over time, he realized that embracing a non-toxic lifestyle was the answer he needed to facilitate his body's natural restoration process. Warren now guides himself with mindful attention to the five primary methods of toxin exposure: consumption, inhalation, absorption, frequencies, and mindset. Now living in Utah with his wife and three young daughters, he is grateful for his family's support as he pursues his mission to assist others in adopting a non-toxic lifestyle.
Warren Phillips, M.S., the Non-Toxic Dad, he is leading a social movement educating and inspiring individuals to choose a non-toxic lifestyle. Warren is a passionate and energetic entrepreneur, he lives a non-toxic lifestyle and works tirelessly to educate the world about avoiding and removing toxins. Non-Toxic Dad has reached and impacted over 100 million people in the last year.
During the first 9+ years of his career, Warren worked as a published scientist and Environmental Consultant, cleaning and evaluating chemical and heavy metal impacts on human health and the environment. This work exposed him to these toxins, and he eventually fell ill with an "unexplainable illness." The symptoms, including chronic pain, weight gain, and anxiety, were so severe that he struggled to find a reason to live. But he refused to give up on himself.
Over time, he realized that embracing a non-toxic lifestyle was the answer he needed to facilitate his body's natural restoration process. Warren now guides himself with mindful attention to the five primary methods of toxin exposure: consumption, inhalation, absorption, frequencies, and mindset.
Now living in Utah with his wife and three young daughters, he is grateful for his family's support as he pursues his mission to assist others in adopting a non-toxic lifestyle.
SHOWNOTES:
😴 Discover how Warren’s battle with heavy metal poisoning and mold exposure stole his nights
😴 Is Stress really the enemy of good sleep?
😴 Why Warren says “it takes no skill to pop a pill”—and what actually works instead
😴 Could Your Home Be Making You Sleepless?
😴 Warren breaks down hidden toxins—like fragrances and off-gassing furniture
😴 Heavy Metals, Mold, & Hormones: What the connection?
😴 Warren’s favorite low-cost detox hacks (like binders before bed) to help your body unload toxins while you sleep
😴 Practical tips to transform your bedroom
😴 Grounding & Electricity: Are Your Gadgets Killing Your Melatonin?
😴 Warren explains melatonin resistance—why some people actually get more awake after taking it
😴 How long does it really take to fix your sleep?
😴 What can we learn from Warren’s sleep journey and sleep routine
😴 And so much more!
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Welcome to the Sleep As a Skill podcast. My name is Mollie Eastman. I am the founder of Sleep as A Skill, a company that optimizes sleep through technology, accountability, and behavioral change. As an ex sleep sufferer turned sleep course creator, I am on a mission to transform the way the world thinks about sleep.
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Welcome to The Sleepless Skill Podcast. Our guest today is Warren Phillips, Ms. The non-toxic dad. He's also known as, and he is leading a social movement, educating and inspiring individuals to choose a non-toxic lifestyle. Now, Warren is a passionate and energetic entrepreneur. He lives a non-toxic lifestyle himself and works tirelessly to educate the world about avoiding and removing toxins.
Non-toxic dad has reached and impacted over a hundred million people in the last year alone, and during the first nine plus years of his career, Warren worked as a published scientist and environmental consultant, cleaning and evaluating chemical and heavy metal impacts on human health and the environment.
This work exposed him to these toxins and he eventually fell ill with a. Unexplainable illness. The symptoms including chronic pain, weight gain, and anxiety were so severe that he struggled to find a reason to live, but he refused to give up on himself. Over time. He realized that embracing a non-toxic lifestyle was the answer he needed to facilitate his body's natural restoration processes.
Warren now guides himself with mindful attention to the. Five primary methods of toxin exposure, consumption, inhalation absorption, frequencies, and mindset. Now living in Utah with his wife and three young daughters, he's grateful for his family support as he pursues his mission to assist others in adopting a non-toxic lifestyle.
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And welcome to the Sleep is a Skill podcast. This is a special treat to have our guest here today. He shares all over the place. We've probably seen him on different social platforms, sharing about how to live a non-toxic lifestyle, and he's very dedicated to this topic and walks his talk. I had the opportunity to meet Warren Phillips in person, which doesn't always happen nowadays in la and I'm so grateful to have him on the podcast today to talk about sleep and a non-toxic lifestyle.
So thank you so much for taking the time to be here. Well, thank you, Molly. And just how I set off camera sleep was something that I really suffered with. Yeah. And was the first thing to leave and one of the hardest things to get back. And so I do have a. Deep, deep knowledge of sleep, sleep hacks, the reasons we don't sleep, some of the major causes of sleep problems.
And I had to fight to get my nights back. And I still have to do quite a few things, less things than I've used to do. Less pills, less, you know, uh, you know, as I've gotten healthier, like taking high dose CB, d wow knocks me out and I can sleep. However there's consequences. The next day I can get grouchy and, you know, uh, there there's consequences.
But I used to have to do that. So there's this I can take us and walk us through. What I had to do and what I stopped doing and what I do now over this crazy journey of learning to sleep. And because sleep in fact is a skill. You have to work for it. You have to just like an athlete, you can't just expect, you know, you can pop a pill if you want.
And a lot of people do that. There's some powerful drugs that'll that'll knock you out with massive consequences. And that's no skill. It takes no skill to pop a pill. Hey, that rhymes. That sounded really good. That was really good. Let's quote that. I like that. I was even impressed. See, we're coming from our unconscious mind.
That's. Yes, exactly. That was just flow state. Well, first off, I so appreciate you sharing vulnerably about your own past with your sleep. And that's part of my story too. I went through this period of, part of my biggest rock bottom moment in my life was related to this stretch of insomnia while traveling internationally.
And it just completely uprooted my life, but ended up being one of the best things that could have happened to me because it did expose this lacking skillset. And then the opportunity to build that skillset and listen, when I was at my lowest, I was doing everything humanly possible. I wanted the pill, I wanted the thing that would fix the problem.
And yet, as you pointed to, to really get at the root of that, there's just a lot more involved. And so I'd love to hear more about your journey and what you've kind of discovered over the years that has really made that difference for you with your sleep. Yeah, I mean the, at the root cause for me and like you had a root cause as well of why my hormones disrupted, why wasn't I sleeping?
Uh, it. At first it was mostly heavy metal poisoning because I worked cleaning up abandoned mines. I was getting exposed, abandoned mines. Those are like turn of the century. Dig out a bunch of rock, crush it up, uh, you know, use. Um, they call it separation to get gold and lead and copper. And I did that in, in Montana, so I had a lot of exposures there and that's where I lost my health.
Um, I did meric oxide cleanup. They used to coat this stuff on grain. The same like stuff you put in tattoos, McCarrick oxide oh is, uh, just a red dye essentially, but it's mercury and that can really disrupt your sleep because it affects, it's a neurotoxin that affects your hypothalamus and pituitary and can dysregulate your hormones affect melatonin and cortisol is obviously as well.
And so your, your sleep patterns can be thrown off. Um, it can really take out your sleep. So heavy metals plus a little mold exposure, moving into my parents' basement 'cause I had to sell everything that I had, um, at 25, move back into my parents' basement. Completely defeated. Hoping that removing all stress from my life, I would heal, but stress wasn't the reason I was sick.
Actually, stress is good for you and it can drive you forward because we should be able to adapt to it. It should pull us forward. It shouldn't defeat us and it shouldn't cause sleeplessness. Right. We shouldn't be up at night worrying about it. That's a hormone dysregulation. Yes. Maybe not watching as a a tip.
Don't watch a very aggressive action film before bed. Right. If you can't adapt to that. When I was sick, I couldn't watch an action film. Mm-hmm. I couldn't take a hot shower because my body couldn't adapt to that heat. It couldn't adapt to the stress. If I worked out, I wouldn't sleep because my body couldn't adapt to that stress.
But now that I'm healthy, I sleep better when I work out. Yes. I sleep better if I take a hot tub 'cause it relaxes me. But when you can't adapt and that's kind of a thyroid thing and cortisol thing, there's a lot of, a lot of hormones that work there to adapt to stress. If you can't adapt to stress, you're not gonna sleep well.
So, and then you have the heavy metal poisoning, which is a chemical stressor at the cellular level, at the hormonal level, actually affecting your thyroid, affecting your hypothalamus pituitary, which helps regulate your sleep hormones being disrupted. So at the root cause, for me, it was my hormones were thrown off at the hypothalamus pituitary at the inside of my brain, affecting those hormones.
The hormone cascade as it cascaded down, one of the symptoms is sleeplessness, restlessness, anxiety. You can't adapt to stress. You think everything, everybody else is wrong. And you're right. Like there's all kinds of crazy thoughts. You become a little bit insane. Yeah, because think about it, when they had Matt as a hatter disease back in day and mercury based because of the Yeah, yeah.
The fell hat. It makes you crazy. Yes. It destroys your sleep. It disregulates your hormones. You become, uh, a different person. And so there is that group watching this and there's also, and don't worry, you biohackers you that are already sleeping well and it's like, I just want, if I can get another half hour of deep sleep, I have the miracle score on my biometrics.
Um, I'll help you with that as well. 'cause I, I do play with, with those sorts of things as well. Right. So, but I just wanted to get to the core. Like that's what really did it moved into a moldy basement. Mold is a big sleep destroy destroyer. What massively disrupts your hormones and your sleep hormones and it causes all kinds of other stuff can literally kill you.
It's so toxic. Definitely lead to cancer. Hormone disruption, thyroid problems, hyperthyroid, um, you name it, toxin induced diabetes even because you're destroying your cells. So anyway, that's kind of my story and that's, that's why I, that was how my journey started. I. So good. Well, and thank you too, and I love that you spoke to both groups, that the one group who is just mystified and maybe dealing with that conversation of, oh, well, maybe it's just so much stress, or I need to de-stress, or I need to work out more X, Y, Z.
But to your point, there's certain components at play that for some people they might not be able to recover from that stress in the same way. So there's so much nuance here. And then for that other group then we can address those ways to just optimize and what have you. But do you have it that, given what you discovered around heavy metals and mold and what have you, do you believe that everyone should routinely be getting tested for these toxins?
And if so, is there a particular test that you really like to see people utilize or how do you think about that? Well, I think everybody should be detoxing. I mean, you, yes, you can run tests. You just ran a test. What test did you run? Which lab? The vibrant wellness. Test. Yeah. Out of the total TOXs. Yeah. The total tox is, um, I'm actually trying to, I'm gonna work with them and I haven't done that test yet, but I wanna run it.
Okay. Yes. Um, because I'm trying to, I'm trying to optimize my health again. You know, I went through, I'm telling you, 18 years of doing it all, driving everywhere, flying, seeing every doc, doctor, injecting stuff into myself, missing veins, big, you know, phosphatidylcholine mixed with glutathione. Like I've, you know, did all the crazy stuff worked before.
This stuff was cool. Before it was mainstream. Um, I was developing carbon products to bind biotoxins and no one even knew about it. Now there's 20 companies out there, but we're kind of like the, the fathers of some of the natural detox methods that are now being used, um, back in the day. 'cause I did coach, uh, medical doctors for 18 years back in the day.
Wow. So not doing that anymore. Drop that a couple years ago to, to do the non-toxic dad, uh, lift. So circle back around 70% of homes have unhealthy levels of toxins, right? Um, well, healthy and levies of mold. I would say 95, maybe 99% of homes have, uh, neurotoxins, volatile organic compounds coming off their couches, uh, coming off their wood from their furniture and these nice new homes with par.
Now it's, maybe it's not even particle board, maybe it's, uh, just plywood, but it's toxic plywood that still has formaldehyde and toxic glues and synthetic glues that, that off gas. So I would say 99% of those homes, and that affects your sleep volatile organic compounds affect your sleep. So. Biohacker, I'll throw this out for you.
If you have magazines and books laying next to your nightstand, that could be disrupting your sleep. Mm. Little things like that. If you're still using perfumes and colognes, and if that's around, that's gonna massively disrupt your sleep. Those little things. And then we can get to the shutting off electricity in your home.
'cause that's really linked to melatonin production. That was a big one for me to get sleep without taking a ton of supplements. That was the final thing that allowed me to stop taking so many supplements. Like tryptophan, I still take magnesium every night. But taking CBD, like I finally got off a CBD when I got rid of the electric fields in my home, and we can talk about that later.
So I'm kind of jumping around playing. No, I appreciate it. Yeah, but it's everyone's toxic. Yes. You don't, that tox test is expensive, right? Mm-hmm. So not everyone can afford that, especially if. You know, everyone's saying you're crazy and no one wants to give you any money anymore. And your husband's like, what the heck?
Yes. Because usually it's the husband that's like, what the heck? 'cause husbands, you have more testosterone, right? You have more chutzpah naturally. Yeah. So you can take on more toxins and not feel as bad. And because, but your tea is dropped. Let's look at it. It's, it's on a, the, the male hormones are on skyrocketing down.
Sperm count is skyrocketing down because of microplastics, heavy metals, toxins, mold, diet. All of it is affecting us. But that keeps you more energized. Testosterone is a miracle hormone to feel well, right. And to give you the ability to make decisions. But your wife, if she's living in a Modi home, or your girlfriend or your partner mm-hmm.
If she gets dysregulated, she doesn't get down and sad real quick because her testosterone is gonna drop below those levels where she doesn't have enough strength to make decisions or to have energy to get out of bed. And you're like, what's wrong? Well, you have higher testosterone and just wait. You'll be there too.
Right? Right. It just takes a little bit longer. So we do need to be patient in this process if you're, I mean, this destroys marriages, uh, people that are sick. Yeah. So I only say that your homes are toxic and if you have a toxic home, we just released a, a docuseries on this with Dr. Pedram Sja, who's actually, uh, lives in La Nowick Home.
We can drop the link Homesick Home. Yeah. I love that. Um, is a, we're just releasing it actually September 14th, and we're gonna do a, a viewing in LA uh Oh, amazing. Whenever those big things are that you do. Oh, Betsy, like, yes, exactly. Yeah. So we're doing the thing. I just premier start on Premier or something.
Yeah, yeah. Premier. Yeah. The one of his buddies in LA That's what's nice about pra moving back to la he's. Big into that scene and knows those connections. So we're doing that in January. But because your home is your, obviously your, your your first skin and then you have your second skin, and if you don't per, if you're inside this protection right, and it's the inside is toxic, it's really gonna affect your sleep.
The volatile organic compounds, mold, wow. 70% of homes, but volatile organic compounds, things that are offgassing from junk furniture. You wanna use natural woods you want to use if you're, if you're getting something built. I just had new, uh, like lockers and storage stuff built and I had it built out of, it's called Pure Bond plywood.
It's literally was about 30% more expensive. And, but I waited and did it anyway. And, and then when we painted it, we painted it with non-toxic paints. We sealed it with non-toxic sealers 100% VOC free. So, but if you would go to. You know, and have someone build your cabinets for you at a particle board and junk paint, you're blasting vault, organic compounds into your home, into your body.
You're not protected. And if you're not protected, your body's aggravated. And when your body's aggravated, you don't sleep. So, exactly. Anyway, you can keep directing me here. I can go. Almost so good. No, it's fantastic. Okay. And then for people that might be listening and maybe if they are dealing or suspect that they're dealing with molds, toxins, and as you pointed out, it's like most likely, even just statistically that people are dealing with this, as we've pointed out, just these big numbers.
I mean, coming from so many different angles, what would you say for people that maybe they aren't sleeping well and they are brain fogged and all the things and where to begin question can come up for people. And I think you had mentioned that everyone should really be detoxing in some way, shape, or form in our modern society.
Is there kind of a standard stack or behavioral interventions or things that you like to see everyone be doing routinely or how do you think about this? Yeah. So if I give my top things right, uh, just to get there quickly, you know, get your home tested, watch Homesick home, uh, you'll learn a lot there. I mean, when we talk about marriages, you should watch these people in the interview.
I mean, it's hilarious. Like you could pretty much tell that they were on the, they even said they're on the verge of divorce. Like, and they're just like, oh, you know, here she goes again. You know, all that. I mean, because it's stressful, right? Yes. So, I don't wanna stress out your lives. I want to give you fast solutions.
So if you're gonna go fast, uh, get your humidity down. Make sure you don't have any water leaks. Like, have someone inspect your home. Watch Homesick Home, right? Yes. Before you watch, that's a by the way, you have a basement, get a de humidifier, right? Okay. And if you have a local guy that can fog your home, that's not gonna fix the problem because there's probably, you know, you don't know what your source is, but you could fog your home real fast and kind of knock down the load, but at least keep the humidity in your home.
Um, try to get it at 50%. Over half the time, up to 75% of the time, keep that humidity down. So less moisture, less mold, right? So that's, that's gonna be a great hack for you. Um, the next thing you want to do is you want to take a binder. Um, I have a, actually, it's like my seventh generation of this product called True Carbon Cleanse.
But there's all kinds of other carbon type binders out there. And you take that every night before bed, right? Mm. I do that every night. That's one of the first hacks that helped me start sleeping better. And biohackers use this. Dave Asprey, I was the first to the party, but he discovered it as well. He had a carbon product back with Bulletproof, and he said, take it before you go to bed.
You'll sleep better for the same reason at night you dump toxins, right? And if you have mold toxins, genetically, you know, the genetic thing, there's so like a big part of the population that can't detox biotoxins. But whether you can or you can't detox these biotoxins genetically, you. Uh, create hepatic biliary recirculation.
So at night your liver dumps that bile, and then when you eat fats, it dumps the bile as well. But there's this liver detoxification at night and when that drops, if you have carbon in your gut and your lower intestine, it'll grab those toxins and pull 'em out of your body so you don't get that reabsorption.
So a lot of us, if I don't take carbon even to this day, 'cause I'm still, not that, I'm not a great genetic detoxer methylation, like all of that, right? Yeah, same. Yeah. So when I take carbon at night, that if I'm taking it regularly, I don't get that in the middle of the night because it's called liver time.
There's lots of fun names for it in the functional medicine space. But the hepatic biliary circulation, that liver dump at night is picked up, and that's gonna create a great lift in your sleep. And if you're living in biotoxins, it's not gonna fix the fact that you're being bombarded, you know, you're being attacked, the enemies are still there, but at least you have a little bit of a shield because you're moving this stuff out.
If you don't take it, it's gonna reabsorb in the lower small intestine, the toxins are gonna get back into the bloodstream. Cause more inflammation, more hormone dysregulation, more sleeplessness, and that's a big problem. So that's, that's a great hack. Uh, and if you are looking to sleep better, um, for many of us, especially toxic people, if I'm speaking to you because your thyroid's disrupted, you're not gonna be able to take melatonin and it's not gonna work for you.
It's actually gonna work against you. It's gonna cause you like me. It'll wake me up and make me more energized than it'll calm me down. And some, some people say if you can push through that, take high doses, like 50 milligrams. I highly don't recommend that unless you're working with a practitioner that's running blood work on you.
So don't, don't jump into that game. Um, if you're not sleeping with it, that's normal because you're melatonin resistant, like you are insulin resistant. So does that make, should I explain that more? Does your, I would love for you to explain that more because I feel like this will be new for a lot of people.
Since so many people, that's one of the first things they're going to, when they are struggling with sleep is, oh, well I heard melatonin, so they're taking that. So yeah, if you could share more about that, that'd be great. Yeah. So just like when you have, uh, you can have a lot of testosterone, um, in your blood, but it's not being received, right?
You can have a lot of thyroid, T three, T four hormone running around, but if it's not received, the signal isn't happening. Right. It's resistant. You can have a lot of glucose running around in your blood, but if there's no insulin. To open up that pathway and put in the sugar, you're gonna build up sugar and you're gonna be a diabetic.
Right. So it's a, it's resistant to the hormone, it's resistant to doing what it's supposed to do. It can't go in and unlock that key to help you sleep better. So you become resistant to melatonin. You can take it, it just builds up inside of you and it's building. And if, if you're toxic, like I was, it's not like you're melatonin deficient, your body just can't utilize it.
So it's not gonna work. It's actually gonna work against you and if you keep taking it and it's not good for you, right. You need to be able to utilize that melatonin. I'm not a i and there's a time and a place, you know, you can do melatonin, overdose, it can do some crazy things and biohack your body and, and, and cause resets.
It can detox you actually too. So there's lots of benefits if you work with a practitioner. But if you're not that person, so what do you do? Right? Um, I like to take the precursor, which is tryptophan. I find that that is great. Taking, uh, things that relax my body. 'cause your cortisol is not coming down at night.
So I took a product called CFOs back in the day, but it's phosphatidyl sine. I haven't taken it in a while. I, I'm happy that I remembered it. It must be in flow state. So phosphatidyl sine Yes. Um, and GABA and things like that that calm you. Right? And before bed and tryptophan, you can even take that earlier in the day.
But that can help get you through. And of course, magnesium. I have a magnesium product that has 10 different forms of mag. I'll drop that in there. Lots of great magnesium, please. I'm not saying, you know, mine's one of the best, but there's a lot of great ones out there. True carbon, I would put me at the top at the list on that one.
Yeah. But so magnesium is great for sleep. And then you can, um, for magnesium you wanna build up your levels of magnesium. That's a very, very calming, um, it works in so many metabolic pathways related to sleep, related to energy. And that's another one. If you don't have a TP, if you don't have good energy.
You're not gonna sleep. So sleep problems are really a cellular problem. I mean, it's a hormonal problem, but it's also a cell problem because if you can't make energy, you don't have energy to sleep, you need energy to sleep, you're still running on energy, you need it so you're fatigued during the day 'cause you have low energy, you're fatigued at night and you can't sleep because you don't have the fuel to fuel your sleep.
You're constipated. Why? Because your body doesn't have the energy to contract. And your gut's inflamed too, from toxins to contract to go the bathroom, you need a TP. And here's a a gem that I, I dropped on a podcast recently and I fact checked myself 'cause I pulled this one from memory. Um, it takes about seven to 10 years to turn over your body.
So when you're looking at sleep, some of these hacks I'm giving you. You know, taking the carbon, the melatonin with sero FoST to calm you down, high dose CBD, work up to it. Don't do it at first. That'll knock your junk out. You gotta take a lot of it though. It's super expensive. It's like 80, 80, 90 bucks every two weeks.
Um, and it can cause you to kind of be mean and even fatigued during the day. So, but I used it, it was an emergency, you know, but over time I'm detoxing, right? I'm getting my hormones to come back online. I'm allowed, I started exercising slowly again, right? Which helps with detox and lymphatic, right? I'm cutting the TV out before night.
I had to do that early on. I had to cut exercise early on, right? I had to go years without exercise, just so I could sleep better, right? So you turn over your cells, so you have to, it's a lifestyle. Sleep is a skill. It's, you're not gonna get it. Um, just because you want it. You're not gonna get it from a pill.
It, it'll take you seven years to get your sleep back. That's what I'm saying to you. It's a skill that you'll develop over seven years. And by the end of those seven years, if you pick up all the skills, all the things that you're learning here on this podcast, and you start integrating the ones that move the needle in your sleep the most, then you're really gonna have something special seven years from now.
But in the process, you're gonna sleep better by removing the toxins, by trying some of these supplements and stacks, they're gonna make a big difference in your life. Wow, okay. And in that seven years, for anyone that's like, oh no, but I wanna sleep like tonight, you, as you're pointed to, we will be improving along throughout the, we'll be, yeah.
Seven years. Absolutely. Like, you know, so rest assured there's so much we can do. Yeah. Knock yourself out with high dose CBD. Right. And even better add some CBN in it. Mm-hmm. I do have a product that I like. It has CB, D and CBN. A little bit of melatonin. And the reason that I like that product is the CBN.
What it does clinically is it makes you less, um, melatonin resistant. That's why I know about that stuff. Right, okay. Because I studied this product, it's not my product. Um, but it's has CBN, it's a, which is a derivative of, you know, CBN ccb, CBD, there's, there's lots of these can cannabinoids, cannabinoids, dunno if I said that right?
Um, so you CBN can make you less, it's a type of CBD, so it's Sure. Essentially CBD but it's not, it's a different derivative. Yeah. And that makes, in the, in the literature it makes you less melatonin resistant. I dunno how that works. Maybe Dr. Dropping inflammation into certain, or driving a certain cannabinoid pathway in your body.
I'm not sure on the science. Um, I'm sure you could ask the company. It's called Purity Health, uh, sleep. Um. Pure sleep or it's purity health, but I'll, I'll put the link. We'll, I'll give you the link. So Yeah. Yeah. That, that can help. Um, and that'll knock you out and you don't have to take as much. So that's actually a good, a good hack.
You can try that product, but if, if that one doesn't work for you, and it has like, just a small amount of, um, soluble CBD. So it's, it's a lot of the CBD, um, tinctures, they're just powders and they fall out and they sat at the bottom. You go like this, there's all your, there's all your melatonin right? You know, as dust in the bottom of your bottle.
But this one, um, the scientist did a good job. So, or you can take high dose C, b, D, it'll knock you out, right. It really will. Mm-hmm. But you gotta up your dose. It's, it can be pricey, but, um, it works really well. So. Okay. Uh, anyway, I can go and on about, about the hacks. If you've tuned into the show or followed any of our content here at Sleep as a Skill, you may have heard that everyone that we work with wears the Ora Ring, and as a result, we have amassed a very large database of Ora Ring users and get to see what really moves a needle for people when it comes to their sleep measurably.
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What we do is we ask every person that comes on the podcast about how they're managing their own sleep. So I would love to dive in there with you on how you're doing that, but any kind of thoughts to kind of put a bow on this big, huge topic of toxins and sleep before we get into how you're managing things?
Yeah, so I mean, to wrap it up is, is toxins are probably one of the biggest disruptors, right, of your sleep. So look in your home, um, and remove all things that say fragrance, perfume, that's all your. You know, if, if it's in your shampoo, your haircare products, uh, blade plugins, like, I'm not gonna assume that you're not.
You know, this is a health podcast, but some folks hold onto those things. But if you wanna sleep, well take everything outta your house that says perfume or, uh, fragrance and just get rid of it, right? And that'll make a big difference in your sleep. Another thing you can do is a great hack. Um, and I do this, so this will actually add it, I want to say it again, but open your window if you can get in fresh air.
Um, that's a big hack and I'll, I'll, I'll go into my sleep routine after that. But let's just clean up your home, right? Get the humidity down, get your sleep sanctuary. Start in your bedroom, right? So if you're looking to dial in your sleep. You need an organic mattress. Get rid of the flame retardants, the formaldehydes, the VOCs.
You need organic. Um, if you do bamboo, make sure it's lia cell. Um, lielle. The how they make it. That's the non-toxic way to, to make bamboo sheets organic, of course. Um, pillowcases. Make sure those paddings like all that is non-toxic. Get rid of all the toxic First place you get rid of. All your toxic furniture is in your room.
Get solid hardwood stained with non-toxic paints. Um, make sure there's no perfumes. Like if you even have a bottle of, uh, essential oils kind of open, that's too much for your body, that's gonna cause stimulation. So get rid of all the essential oils. Don't diffuse those in your space. Sleep sanctuary, all books, magazines.
Get 'em out. Open up your windows. Turn on the air conditioning. Cool off the room. That's gonna be amazing. And then we can drop into some of the cool things that I do, um, to, to, to hack my bedroom. Oh, perfect. Well, it almost gives me a preview of, I'd imagine part of your answer for what's on your nightstand, I'm assuming.
Certainly we don't have books and magazines on there from the sounds of it, but that was so good. And also, I definitely encourage people, and, and we'll share all the links to all your, your resources, but to definitely check out your website because you've got tons of things on the, in the blog section and, and then of course following you on different platforms because different bite-sized ways to dive into all these things.
So don't feel overwhelmed if you're listening of, oh no, all the places I gotta, you know, be mindful of that. We can do this in a thoughtful manner. Beautiful. Okay, so I'm really excited to hear how you're managing things. So our first question is, what does your nightly sleep routine look like right now?
Yeah, so what I do, and this eliminates. Cell phone charging next to my bed. You wanna keep that 14 feet away, so don't charge next to your phone. But I shut my electricity off at night so it shuts off. There's, you can actually go into your, your panel and shut it off yourself. Find which ones get an electric field, uh, meter, right?
That's not magnetic fields, which is a whole nother thing that can disrupt your sleep as well. But usually, um, so you're not sleeping next to a refrigerator. So you can get a tester for electric fields and magnetic fields, and you want that to pre pretty much zero in your bedroom. So electric fields are a big one that can disrupt again, melatonin in your body, making you more melatonin resistant.
Dysregulating your melatonin pathway. It's a big one, right? It's documented through and through in the, in the literature. Um, another really great thing for sleep is grounding, right? Really great. Yes. 'cause when we're around all this electricity, these, these bad ions and get on our battery, decharge us.
It's free. It's probably the most powerful, well documented antioxidant. Get your feet on the ground. It's cheap, it's free, it reduces pain, increases sleep all out there. Big, huge in the literature. And it's free and it's easy. So I do ground as part of my sleep routine. I'm grounding every day ground 15 minutes before bed.
Right? I'm getting off track again. So that's a good, I love it. No, but it's helpful. And uh, quick question because we do get a lot of questions about grounding and I'm curious if you've landed on particular products or things that you might be doing for sleep and grounding Never, never ground in an electric field.
That's why I shut off my electricity. Never ground in electric field. That's an literature too, because now you become a conduit. You're on a grounding pad. Yes. Plugged in. That's always my cautionary call out. Glad you say that. Fields, guess what those are? It's going through you. It's passing through. It's probably not adding more positive electrons, toxic electricity, electrons onto your body and destroying your battery.
But it's running through you. You're completing a circuit. Bad idea, right? Shut off your electricity. Yeah. Even better biohackers. Run a pool outside. Go to Home Depot, get a copper rod, jam that son of a bitch deep into the earth. Clamp onto that. Wired it on hard with your, with your bedding and yeah, now it's like sleeping on the ground outside.
That's brilliant. Turn that, turn your electricity back on. You've completed the current and it's gonna find you. You're the, you're grounded. You're like the best thing. The electric fields are just gonna go zip right through you. Yes. They'll find you, they'll find the ground. So my house is concrete. I'm always grounded.
I like, I mean I still wear, um, uh, barefoot, 'cause I'm always barefoot. But like, when I'm at my desk, it's good to have shoes on 'cause I have all these electronics and I be, if I put take my shoes off and I've measured this, I go, my, the millivolts just blast through me. But if I put my shoes on, it protects me.
I'm no longer grounded. I don't want these electric fields, these cameras, these microphones, this light, you know, the. The, the LCD screen here, like going through me. So that's really important. So ground in a hygienic bedroom is okay, right? Mm-hmm. Um, so anyway, that's a big one. So get out ground grounding pads are great.
Um, but in an electric field, I would say no, right? Depends on your bedroom. No, this is perfect. Actually, I'm glad you mentioned the, your workspace too, because you're making me think I have some grounding shoes and there's definitely been times that I've just not considered the fact that I'm wearing those at my workspace, and that that could be very problematic.
A lot of biohackers do that. We think. I used to stand on a pad because I wanted, I thought I was protecting myself. Sure, yeah. And you're not, right. You're not. You're really not. And are you harming yourself? Probably. And there's a nice electric field, um, being produced in this area. So that was one of the hacks.
Get your cell phone away from you. Mine gets shut off at night. I do take magnesium. Um, I do take my true carbon cleanse every night. Um, yeah. I still have my bottle of tryptophan there. If I'm, you know, sometimes, you know, I you're, you said that, I'm like, my sleep's great. It's good. Right? Yeah. It, it it's non-existent love.
I'm still moving towards great. Do I have great night's sleeps? Yes. But not often enough. Like my wife, lots of great night's sleeps, right? Yeah. But she wasn't hammered with toxins like I was. And she has probably better genetics. That's a, that's, I was a good sleeper, um, back in the day, you know? Yeah. I mean, I was an amazing sleeper.
Um, another thing, breathe right strips. Hmm. Mouth taping. I use breathe write strips every night. Yes. They're toxic on my nose. I'm getting a surgery. I've looked into every option. I even put microplastic spreaders in my nose 'cause I believe I can detox the microplastics with, uh, or nanoplastics with, uh, my zeolite product or.
Literature says that they pulls nanoplastic, so I'm gonna believe it, but I haven't run tests on it. They're great for heavy metals that'll lower heavy metals, um, in your body. So that's another great hack, you know? Yeah. Um, detoxing. So that's something that I do continuously. I just did a big five day heavy metal detox.
I use a combination of physician, uh, binders and my cyto detox products. 'cause I like to do a big heavy detox once a year with DMSA. And then I just do cyto detox cleanup. Um, you know, sometimes I try to do it daily, but again, I have, you know, I have it right here, but sometimes I forget. Right. I'm a busy entrepreneur, so sleep routine.
And then what else I do is I cool off my room, 68 degrees, 69 degrees is where I like it. And then I have a chili pad. Um, I don't you pro hopefully you have a course. Yeah. Todd and Tara all put that, the show notes. I can't live without that thing. Know my body so good. I could never sleep, but I know now that I have that.
So breathe your, my, my pathways so I can breathe. I don't have to mouth tape 'cause I've trained myself. I breathe through my nose and, um, my nose have a massive deviated septum, so I need to be able to breathe through my mouth or I'm not breathing. Uh, because it gets, it gets clogged. I mean, it's a minute pathway on both sides, but with those two devices, the, there's a little one that spreads your nose and then I have the breathe right strip.
Um, and then I take, uh, for me, you can set up the, the chili sleep, but I just keep mine at like 69 degrees and I raise it back up manually. So, 'cause why, because sometimes the program runs, runs awry and it doesn't Yeah. Cool. Off. And then I don't, and then I, I, I'm up all night. I'm like, I have a horrible night's sleep.
I can't afford that. So I turned it back up to 74. Why do I turn it back up? Because if you get condensation on your bed, and this happened to me 'cause my wife bought this really expensive topper and I had to turn it up really, really low. It condensated and had, it wasn't black mold, but I could smell it.
So I had to get out. I even did a thing on my, uh, story on my Instagram where I use this special fog. 'cause I, I get it from the fogging companies. I have connections and I fogged it myself with a big mask. And I, it's non-toxic, but you, when it's being sprayed, it's uh, you know, corrosive. So that can happen and that can happen a lot.
They've warned people about that. So be careful. That's why I turn it up to 74, which is more like room temperature because I let my room, um, I have little mini splits in my house. I don't have mm-hmm. Whole house air conditioner. So like, the mini splits are what you get in, uh, when you go say to a hotel, you know, you turn 'em up.
Yeah. So I turn them, put 'em on fan. And you should always run your fan and your air conditioning. Yes. Because that dries out the coil so you don't grow mold. Mm-hmm. So I do the same thing in my home. Make sure you're, you don't probably have a mini split. You might. Yeah. So make sure you don't condensate. I turn mine up and down.
So that's part of my sleep routine. Uh, I also have blackout curtains of course. Sure. I have a little bit of light coming through. I have a door that needs to get put in. The guy hasn't come in so I can completely block out the light. Mm-hmm. So I do have big, thick, expensive, I bought the like $90 organic ones 'cause the other ones just don't, they don't feel right.
Yeah. But I, I put those on and it's amazing. Mm-hmm. Another hack for sleep is breath work. I just discovered that recently. Can't think of the guy's name. No, I'm newer to that too. Yeah. But I'll send you the link. Love the guy. I love that. I use that. He's the best. Ooh, I wanna hear it. Releases all that negative energy.
All that anxiety. Yeah. You can feel it coming outta your body. I mean, I. You know, um, as a, you know, as a Christian, if you will. Yeah, sure. Like we were told not to use these strategies. That's a bunch of bull crap, in my opinion. Yeah. I think these were tools that, that Jesus used, right? Yeah. So, um, I think giving you the permission, if you're afraid of that stuff.
Yeah. Giving you the permission just to do this and do it with your husband or a loved one, or someone you trust because they're, you're losing control of your mind a little bit, right? Yeah. So you need to be in a safe space, but you're, you literally, I connect the God when it happens. I feel, I get downloads, I get love.
You're a, you're doing a good job. Like no negative. It's all love. Yeah. You know, when I connect the spirit, when I'm connecting with God. Mm-hmm. So that's been huge for my sleep too, because if I have a lot of anxiety happening, yes. I had, I had like my first anxiety experience and probably now I would say 10 years, I'm like, I'm anxious.
Like I, I'm having real anxiety. Yeah. I did breath work. Gone. Didn't come back and I was dysfunctional. Anxiety, I couldn't, I was fishing. I couldn't even enjoy it. Like I'm having anxiety. I did breath work, gone, never came back. And of course when I had anxiety, I couldn't sleep. Yes. So it's a great tool. So, I mean, so important.
What else do I do? Don't eat before, you know, four hours before bed is a big one. Yeah. That really makes a difference on your sleep. And you can see it on your AA ring if you're doing that. I don't even do AA ring anymore 'cause I'm, I'm, I get, I know, I, I just, I understand it becomes another thing.
Performance based. I just wanna sleep better. I wanna be a better dad. I wanna be a better husband. I wanna love more. I wanna experience love more. You've so I can give more. So that's what breath work really helps with that as well. And um, yeah, I mean I think that's trying to go through my routine. That's, that's about it.
I get up in the morning, here's some mistakes I make that you shouldn't make. Please. Just being awesome. I being awesome, being honest. That too, being awesomely honest. That too. Yeah. And is I drink coffee right away and you know, Ben, you know, uh, Greenfield, Dave Asprey, the king of Yes. Of how to use coffee.
He would even say, don't do that. Yeah. Uh, letting, letting your cortisol naturally come up. So I gotta, I do half calf, you know, but mm-hmm. It's still wrong. It's gonna mess with your sleep. Caffeine will definitely destroy your sleep. If you get off caffeine, you'll notice that cortisol, that tiredness. Yeah.
You won't wake up in the middle of the night revved. 'cause you're just trashing. You can say you're trashing your adrenals, but it's way more complicated than that. People throw that around. Yeah. I trash my adrenals. No, it's, it's, it's a little more complicated than that, but in the end, yes, caffeine will destroy your sleep.
So if you wanna sleep better, you know, do it not how I'm doing it. I would sleep better if I didn't do the caffeine the way I'm doing it. And if I didn't do late day caffeine, sometimes I pay the price. Sure. Right. There's a cost and I'm human and I'm busy and I got kids and I gotta do podcasts and you know, so I will, I will push my body, but most of the time I do a pretty good job of taking care of myself so I can push myself.
Sure. Yeah. Are you familiar with Sean Wells by any chance? And his, uh, I know Sean very well. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And his, he has a new product. Yeah. Razan. I'm curious if you've gotta try that. 'cause that's one of his kind of call outs. We had him on the podcast to speak about potentially using that in a little bit later than you would normally use caffeine, because the thinking is, it's not, uh, affecting adenosine in the same way as caffeine.
So potential work around, and of course, to your point, if we all were to maybe lower the caffeine intake, maybe we wouldn't be having some of the needs in the afternoon or some of those crashing and what have you. But the Razan has been an interesting workaround for some people. So that's, I'm supposed to have some samples.
So Sean, if you're watching this or listening, yeah. Okay, let's get on this. Come on. Okay, well, we'll actually have to voice note him after this, so I will, we'll see if we can get you some samples asap. I love all this and I just had a quick question. I know you mentioned, I love what you had said too about there was that period for you where working out was problematic.
The, you know, maybe like hot shower, sauna, heat. Yeah. All of it. Yeah. Is heat something that you're still utilizing? 'cause we see for a lot of people, different types of ways of thinking of that. Any call out there, if I stay in my hot tub too long, it's gonna work against me, but if I stay in for like 15 minutes, it helps me.
It's a shock, right? It's like an ice bath. So it, it has a lot of the similar effects, right? It's a, it's another way to do it. Right? So I think overdoing it, if I did the hot tub every night, it would, I think it would affect my sleep. As a matter of fact. I know it would. But if you do it once a week, maybe twice a week, spacing it out or doing it every four days, say, I think it's gonna help your sleep, it does relax me.
Uh, especially if I'm. Doing a lot of computer work, my upper neck and traps. So headaches are huge for me, right, because I'm, I just, again, I just push and I'm working out and I'm, I'm not, I haven't learned. I get, I need to learn some of these breathing practices. You can see how fast I'm talking, right? I need to breathe slow down and not just feel like I have to give good, good.
We're such twin. I literally, the breath work person I'm working with, they're having me wear this thing. So if you're watching, if you're listening, I'm on the video, I'm showing there's this kind of like rubber thing that I have to wear around my stomach to start training for the diaphragmatic breathing.
'cause I tend to breathe up here. And so I completely hear what you're talking about. So I appreciate you sharing that. So if you do suffer with morning headaches, I take white willow bark, right? That's another yes. Really great, great one. You don't take aspirin 'cause it lowers inflammation in your body.
You can also do turmeric. I can do that. That helps with sleep. Turmeric, curcumin complex. Maybe with some, uh, venue. Greek I think is, is what helps, uh, get it into the cell. 'cause there's like a blocker in there, uh, you know, on that pathway and that opens it up or neutralizes it. Uh, I can't remember the exact biochemical.
That's not my. Not my, uh, jam on a day-to-day basis, but I can talk about toxins. So, but I, I do, I mean, I did supplements for a long time. It's 20 years in the industry, so I I do know, um, know Sean Wells though, put it that way. Yeah. That guy's a genius. He's great. So, so that's great for headaches. And you'll notice, and, and for me, if I do have a slamming headache, you know, that, uh, white willow bar can't do I Yeah.
You know, I will take aspirin on occasion. Yes. Right? Yeah. And I know that that's not good for me. Like ibuprofen I believe is worse, right? Yeah. Way worse in my opinion. Um, so is aspirin's not good for you? Yeah. But you'll notice you sleep damn good that night, don't you? Right, yeah. Is because the inflammation drops.
When your inflammation drops, your hormones work better. Mm-hmm. Inflammation causes hormone resistance, essentially. That's an easy way to inflames it. And nothing wants to attach the cells inflamed. The, the receptors are inflamed. So, uh, white willow bark is the same active in nature, and I take four or five of those not every night.
'cause I don't. Taking at high dose. You have to be careful guys. Make sure there's not a Prop 65 warning label on the back. 'cause what white willow bark can, um, can have higher levels of lead. It shouldn't, to be honest with you, 'cause that the tree really should not be putting that in the bark. It had to be the, some really bad stuff.
But get the, uh, COAs, make sure it's low and heavy metals. Uh, doc, uh, Sean and I have talked about that on. A podcast that I didn't relaunch, um, four years ago, but I'm about to launch this year. Oh, no way. First quarter. So anyway, there's lots of, you gotta be careful with supplements. Make sure there's no prop 65.
Always ask the company what are your lead levels? Um, you really wanna avoid lead. It's a neurotoxin. It'll affect your sleep as well. I've been poisoned by lead, um, crazy dreams, hallucinations, uh, cleaning up, uh, a battery site in Missoula, Montana. So anyway, a lot of things there, but anti-inflammation before bed.
Another great hack. I'm not doing it now, but it just that hide those turmeric cumin, be careful. It can also have lots of lead in it. So, uh, get really good sources. Take that knock inflammation down. Uh, white willow bark can knock inflammation down. That's anti-inflammatory Diet, obviously gonna make you sleep better as well.
So good. Okay. You answered so much in there. There was like tons of gems. I mean, I think we even spilled into a bit of our question on what does your morning sleep routine look like with the kind of call out that Yeah. Call out of my, yeah. So the morning sleep routine. Yeah. Yes. I screw up with that one.
So you know the answer to that one already. Um, but I appreciate the honesty because so many people are doing some form of that and the fact that then you're bringing in maybe the hashtag Yeah. Influencers. I'm, I'm a very congruent influencer. Like when you hear me talk about something, I'm doing it right.
Totally. Uh, and if I'm not doing it, I'm gonna tell you because guess what? That's, that gives you confidence. And you can tell by my nonverbals that I'm true. I'm real, I'm a real person. Like you, I've been through this. Yeah. I've been doing it 20 years. I know what it's gonna take. And it's honesty. Being honest with yourself.
Yes. Right. You gotta be honest with yourself. The reason you're not sleeping is you haven't made it a skill. And it takes work to make it a skill. And there's lots of excuses. Not to make sleep a skill, but you gotta get rid of the excuses and start pulling some of the solutions that you hear from this podcast.
You see it all, but you gotta start taking action. And as you take action, you'll get that reward cycle, you'll get a little bit better sleep, and then your life will move ahead. And then seven years from now. Your life will be different and you'll have more energy and you'll be sleeping better. And like me, I lost it all guys.
Right? I didn't think I was gonna get married and have children. I have freaking the most amazing family. I am so blessed. You can tell that I'm ready to cry. Like it. I thought I would never have the dream life that I have. You know? I was living in my parents' basement. Yeah. When I was still sick. I had to rip out all my carpets.
I was living on, you know, gyp Creek floors, not sleeping at night, up in my attic, ceiling off my, uh, you know, attic, uh, duck work because VOCs and formaldehyde were coming in from the duck work and the, the, the condo. Like I'd been through hell, right? Yeah. And I fought for it. And it was taking solutions and steps and being encouraged by someone like me saying, Hey, you got this.
You're gonna get there. You're gonna get better. God loves you. You're an amazing person. I know that you, that's not who you really are. You're gonna, you're gonna go, you're gonna get there. Be patient, be strong, right? That's really important. So anyway, honesty is key. To getting well. Honesty is key for you to get your nights back and to start sleeping, sleeping better.
And like me being honest, if I wanna sleep better, I gotta get rid of that caffeine. I gotta not watch a little bit of TV before bed, start getting back to reading books. Another honesty, right? I was telling my friend Prince a about that the other day. He is like, dude, get rid of that poison. And I'm like, you're right.
But I'm not perfect. So water, big glass of water in the morning with salt. I like, um, the salt that I like is colum, the sea salt. I'm a sea salt. I measured a lot of these. I know which ones have lead and which doesn't. I've used some that had lead like Celtic, um, I'm sorry guys. It's, it does have great minerals, but it's, it's like this number one or number two highest levels of lead I've ever seen in salt.
Wow. So I stopped putting that in my water. Yeah. I use kana or I use a company called like Jacobson. Um, they're really clean. It's like. Non-existent lead. And then, um, alumni is like 50 parts per billion, which is acceptable for me. It's like you'd have to drink three teaspoons of that or four teaspoons, I dunno the exact number at the moment, but to exceed Prop 65.
And you always wanna stay down below that prop 65, um, daily intake of lead because if it's 0.5 here, 0.5 there, 0.5 there, you're safe. And that's a real prop. 65 did a really good job. California did a good job with that lead level and a little bit of lemon in that water as well. So that's, that's gonna be huge.
I love that you called out some of those salt options that you've done the research on. Are you cautious about, you know, we see so many element and Redmond, sea salt and all these different electrolyte versions, the amount of, uh, uh, heavy metals in Redmond by the time they put it in there. Mm-hmm. It's probably fine in their electrolyte.
Okay. Uh, but it's, if you're using that same. Same salt throughout the day, it would add up and I wouldn't do it. But it's, they're actually a good, it is a good electrolyte. Um, I, I mean, I have some and I use it Sure. But I don't use it often. And I have other ones. I don't know what the other ones are. Yeah.
But I like kind, I like kinda like to make my own electrolyte. 'cause I take my magnesium supplement. Sure. Um, and I have a supplement, um, that's a physician's only line called Body Bio. It has all the electrolytes in it, and I just, uh, it's in a plastic container. Um, but I'm using that and I'll, I'll drip that in every once in a while for my water.
I drink before, um, before bed. Use a reverse osmosis water, obviously, or deionized is good too, but you gotta put those electrolytes back in. So, um, Redmond is half the, the amount of lead as the Celtic That's, that's, did I say that right? Celtic. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I always wanna say Celtic now.
Celtic, Celtic. Maybe it's a tomato, tomato situation. Yeah. Yeah. I'm from the country, so my English isn't perfect. I grew up in the woods, so I did too. I grew up in middle of nowhere, Maine. Uh, so beautiful place to grow up. Right. And by the Boston Celtics. So, you know, lots of confusing ways to pronounce all these, but No, that was so, so helpful.
I really appreciate that. And so we're mindful of hydration and you kind of create your own electrolytes for headaches, all that stuff. Inflammation, flushing out toxins. Ah, emphatic drainage. Okay. Um, if you can, something I wanna do more of is do rebounding in the morning. Um, three minutes. Mm. So you can do that three minutes, three times a day, but getting on your rebounder, um, in the morning, if you're exercising like me, I'm, I'm stressed and doing I book, book, launching, podcast, launching.
I want to get my videos up to more volume, um, to reach more people. The mission is really growing and I, so I don't work out hard. I'm not looking to get chiseled. I'm not on TRT. Right, right. I have no reason to push hard. So I just, I do a lot of functional workout, just movement. Sure. And, um, a little bit of, you know, resistive training, but I don't do the burst training.
I'm not gonna get on the my row, or I have a row or I have a Tabata bike. I'm gonna eliminate that. 'cause if I do that, it's gonna affect my sleep because I'm burning so hard. Yeah. At my job right now and being a dad to three little girls. Mm-hmm. So, yeah. Absolutely. Um, so mind your energy expenditures.
Mm-hmm. Um, another thing you don't want to do is, I guess this is part of the morning room routine, but this is. I guess throughout the day, mind your energy and don't allow, um, people to affect you. Like if they're don't text people that want to text back and forth and fight, right, just ignore them. The power of ignore, um, it's hard at first because people think they have to answer.
They think they have to be right. No, you don't. Just ignore 'em. Move on. You have more important things to do with your life than to waste your time on drama. Waste your time on politics. Mm-hmm. Focus on the things you can control, right? The things that move your life and needle forward. Things that will affect your sleep, not things you're gonna lose, lose sleep over.
So if you're losing sleep over politics, you need to shut off politics. It's not worth it. You can't change it. Yes, you can change you, which can change it because you can bring more love and light and unity and clear thought. Not judging things, but asking questions. Receiving, being awesome in who you are as a person so that you can connect with anybody, um, and love and forgive people quickly.
'cause you're not all wound up saying stupid shit that are ruin your life. Right. You know, or a friendship. It's just not worth it. So that energy management is really key. Mind your energy. Is this a good use of my energy? Is the decision right now bringing me closer to divine to God? Yeah. Or further away, right?
Is it, is it adding to my energy bucket or is it removing from my energy bucket? Those are great questions to ask throughout the day. And you can stop yourself. I'll never, like, sometimes I'll catch myself and I'm on social media, I'll be thumbing away my way through. Yeah. And I'm like, I'll never get that 15 minutes back.
Throw my phone on the ground. That's true. Right? Oh. So anyway, lots of great information. Um, I've been honored to be here. Good. Well, thank you so much for that. I love how you, it was such a beautiful kind of bow on that conversation of toxins in our space, but also toxic thoughts and toxic, you know, kind of conversations and relationships and all of that.
So really a holistic approach. Okay, so we got, um, your morning sleep routine. And then as far as the question of what's on your nightstand, it sounds like not a lot on there, right? No. Just the magnesium, the book I may be reading. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean, you should off gas it first, but, um, yes, exactly. Put it over to the side.
So a book I may be reading and I read a lot of spiritual books, things that bring me closer to God and, and just explore things that, you know, I, I wouldn't have explored in the past and just being brave. I'm like, sure, let's, let's, let's look into this. Maybe there's something different than what I was told.
Maybe I was lied to. We'll find out. Right. Yeah. Just listening to your heart. And I do, I do a lot of spiritual digging or read a book that my daughters are, are reading, um, so that we can talk about it. That's, that's great. I love that, that magnesium, true carbon cleanse. My cyto detox. Is there tryptophan, is there, white willow bark?
Is there, what else is there? Um, vox guard, another product of mine. It's to protect your voice. Okay. But it's, I love it, uh, for my immune system 'cause they're the same herbs and they get rid of sore throat. So I really like it. I take it at night. I take a lot of it. Actually. It's probably one of the ones I consume the most.
Really? Yeah. I'll have to look at that. Okay. It just makes my, it makes my voice feel good and it's not scratchy and then my throat isn't sore, you know, and, um, sometimes, you know, having a sooth throat, I sleep better. I, you know, and yes. So that's on there. What else? Um. I think that's enough. I, I've said so many things, let's just beautiful.
I'm, it's a messy, it's a little more messy than you think. There's quite a few supplements still around there. Fantastic. No, it was perfect. And the last question would be to date, and I'm clear you're someone that's continually optimizing and improving and all these things, but so far date, what would you say has made the biggest change to the management of your sleep?
Well, the thing that put me over the edge, and this is for the biohackers that you've been, if you listen this long, congratulations. Um, now there's a lot in here for you biohackers, by the way. This is a good, absolutely. Yeah. Is when I shut the electricity off in my bedroom after about one month. And the reason I did that is because I had a friend of mine, Ryan Blazer, who um, yes, we've had him on.
Yeah, he's fantastic. He came in through our place. He was amazing. Yeah. Just went through every square inch. Incredible. And so when he found that, I'm like, you son of a gun, I thought I had this house dowed in and I had some electric field issues. I knew I had magnetic, some magnetic field issues. Um, but there's really no dressing those.
But I had my house rewired. I did all kinds of stuff just to make it a, a, a more quiet home. When he did that, I bought one of those things where you push off the button, so yeah, it shuts it off. It's connected to your box. You don't have to go and shut it off by hand. And I have three, uh, three panels in my house.
It's, it's was really hard to do. Wow. But yeah. Hopefully you only have one panel, and then you can figure out which ones you need to shut off inside the room to make your electric field zero in your room. And hopefully magnetic fields too. But unless you, if your bedroom is next to the kitchen and there's a refrigerator putting off a magnetic field, you're gonna need to move your bed or, or do something.
But that's, you know, where Ryan comes in, um, you can watch Homesick Home as well and learn about that stuff. So when I turned that off, about a month later, I got off of CBD and I'm sleeping through the night. And I, before that, and we're talking about a year ago, I still had to take C, b, d, you know, a few times a week, three to four times a week to sleep through the night.
And I'm like, that, that just can't be good long term. Right? Yeah. You're pushing that. It's like drinking caffeine. So I'm taking CBD, drinking caffeine. They're competing pathways, right? Yeah. It's like, it's just, it's crazy. It's an upper and a downer, right? It's, it's, it's. It's kind of not a good idea, right?
Mm-hmm. As a health guy and I, but I couldn't get through it. And when I shut the electricity off, lo and behold, you know, after about a month of sleeping in that quiet still, you know, electric field in my life and sleep dramatically improved. Mm. I love that. Wow. It's so good. Yes. And I definitely recommend for people listening to check out that episode with Ryan Blazer, check out the documentary, which is gonna be exciting, or the, the film and absolutely to check you out on all your platforms.
So what are the best ways for people to follow you? Uh, non-toxic dad, um, Instagram's probably the most active, where you're going to get a really good community there. TikTok is growing, um, as well, if you're a TikTok or younger on here, but most of you're probably Instagrammers. Yeah. And Facebook. Uh, so that's really great.
I'm on all the platforms, all the social, just non-toxic dad and, uh, non-toxic dad.com. And you know, if you're a health practitioner watching this. You know, we, we both go to events and do things. Yeah. We'd love to meet you. Yeah. Oh, amazing. Well, thank you so much for taking the time to be here and I appreciate my note.
We kept you over with so much incredible wisdom, so I really appreciate you just not keeping any of this back and really just sharing and sharing and making such a difference. So it's very clear you're mission driven and have that spiritual side to you, which is so fantastic and so refreshing to see.
So I so appreciate it and appreciate the time. Yeah, love it. Um, sleep is a skill and I'm so happy that I got my nights back and I believe you will too. Yes. So well said. Thank you. You've been listening to The Sleep Is A Skill Podcast, the top podcast for people who wanna take their sleep skills to the next level.
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